Why VictoriousSecret was just unfollowed by Jalopnik

"Matt Hardigree" (matthardigree)
12/09/2013 at 17:10 • Filed to: Kinja

The photographer was nice enough to come in and explain his thinking and you dismissed it, apparently. You have that power, of course, but if you're not willing to engage in conversation you're going back into the grey.

We don't have a banhammer anymore, so VS is not banned. He can still post just like anyone else, but those posts won't be automatically featured as they have in the past.

DISCUSSION (100)

For Sweden > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:14

So, more or less notable then Jesus Diaz being banned from Gizmodo?

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:14

Eh, people have opinions. As far as I can tell, at least 18 other people agree with him. He should have replied though.

Jayhawk Jake > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:14

Kinja'd!!!

This thread should get exciting...

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:15

Unfortunately, since I did like the guy not too long ago, I do support this decision. His rants have been getting out of hand recently and have gone from brutally honest to down right rude.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Jayhawk Jake
12/09/2013 at 17:15

Kinja'd!!!

All Motor Is Best Motor > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:16

I'm not defending or condoning anyone's actions here, but isn't posting all of this on Oppo for everyone to see a bit harsh? It's kind of like public ridicule in my eyes.

duurtlang > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
12/09/2013 at 17:17

It's not about disagreeing. It's about dismissing the entire reply so others can't even read a useful and constructive reply.

Jayhawk Jake > For Sweden
12/09/2013 at 17:17

On oppo probably more notable, elsewhere who gives a shit.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > duurtlang
12/09/2013 at 17:19

That's what I said. He should have replied. I agree, man.

D > All Motor Is Best Motor
12/09/2013 at 17:19

Coming from Matt, it's like a state-sanctioned shaming

srs bzns

Mikeado > All Motor Is Best Motor
12/09/2013 at 17:19

Making an example of abusing the system isn't overly harsh IMO, especially as VS is a frequent and usually-decent commenter.

duurtlang > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
12/09/2013 at 17:19

Right. I might've misunderstood.

area man > All Motor Is Best Motor
12/09/2013 at 17:20

Gotta keep the kids in line.

Saracen > Jayhawk Jake
12/09/2013 at 17:20

Kinja'd!!!

I concur

area man > area man
12/09/2013 at 17:21

I meant that as a joke Matt, don't banish me too!

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > duurtlang
12/09/2013 at 17:21

It's all good

Anon > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:21

Kinja'd!!!

Oppo Drama? I'm outie.

dinobot666 > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:21

TTAC used to make posts about why they banned commenters. I never understood the rationale for that, but hey, I like forum drama, so the more the merrier.

Speaking of TTAC, I wonder if they'll fire another shot across the bow and make a post about this post. Maybe Jack Baruth will put an embargo on these kinds of posts first. Or something.

BrtStlnd > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:22

I can get pretty liberal with the dismiss button as well... although I'd have to say that in this case it was really dickish to attack the photographer, then dismiss his explanation. I wouldn't call his post a "critique" either.

Straightsix9904 > All Motor Is Best Motor
12/09/2013 at 17:22

I don't know, on the internet everybody forgets there is a human on the other side of the text. VS could have found a more tactful way of saying it and a more tactful way of replying

Also, if you are going to do something publicly, don't be surprised when it blows up publicly.

Nibby > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:22

Allow me to show y'all how to properly Photoshop cars...

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/color-requests…

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Anon
12/09/2013 at 17:23

Kinja'd!!!

Jayhawk Jake > Mikeado
12/09/2013 at 17:25

I'm on the fence. I support making an example, but it could have been done with names greyed out. I mean, we probably could have guessed and it wouldn't have had the same impact, but still.

Of course, if I recall correctly VS has (or had) a moderator position on the photography Kinja blog, so this isn't really different than the whole Jesus Diaz thing a while ago.

Matt Hardigree > All Motor Is Best Motor
12/09/2013 at 17:25

I just want to provide an explanation. He isn't banned, he can still post just as he did before, but he's not going to be featured immediately .

All Motor Is Best Motor > Mikeado
12/09/2013 at 17:26

I'm slightly new here (as of a few months) so I don't know the whole truth about everything that's gone on with any of the parties involved so I could be missing something (perhaps a recent string of misbehavior?). I don't really want to get involved in any of this though, I try to stay out of trouble and be respectful.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:27

He's been quite problematic at times here on Oppo, Matt.

We'll be sure to be more vigilant on this side too.

I'm sorry it had to come like that for him but in the end, he did bring it upon himself

All Motor Is Best Motor > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:28

I understand and can respect your decision; as I recently said in another post I don't know any of the history behind the reasoning for your final decision, and I don't really want to make it my business to begin with.

Nibby > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
12/09/2013 at 17:33

He's not gone away forever.

Leadbull > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:33

Kinja'd!!!

Not gonna comment, not gonna comment, not gonna comment.

Gamecat235 > All Motor Is Best Motor
12/09/2013 at 17:33

Matt is being a bit pre-emptive here, and to be honest, is probably attempting to control things a little bit, as having the following happen can be an issue:

1. Jalopnik features photos, calls them best yet.

2. Commenter tears images apart, breaks them down (albiet, with some merits, especially at first glance).

3. Professional Photog responds, with detailed explanations, going into detail regarding method.

4. Professional Photog's reply is shared to FP of Jalopnik.

5. Commenter dismisses reply from Professional Photog, hiding it from view.

I don't think that this has much to do with anything else, other than Matt trying to make sure that Jalopnik doesn't get on the bad side of photographers who provide photos / and Jalopnik provides publicity and a large platform for the photogs.

Edit: I am an idiot, I meant to include a disclaimer that I don't speak for Matt, and don't intend to, but I am assuming that based on what I saw, Matt's actions were, at least in my eyes, somewhat justified. I left the rest of my comment above this line untouched so that I still look like an idiot. =)

Klaus Schmoll > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
12/09/2013 at 17:36

"His rants have been getting out of hand recently..."

There never was anything but overly opionated crap. Except when he still used AJ as his screen name... but let's not go down this road.

Matt Hardigree > Gamecat235
12/09/2013 at 17:36

That is incorrect. I don't care what it's about, if the subject comes in and isn't particularly abusive I just think it's cowardly.

Gamecat235 > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:38

Dammit. I'm sorry, I edited out, and am going to edit in something at the bottom, where I state(d) that I don't mean to speak for you and that this was just my opinion about the situation as I saw it.

Also, my stand on unnecessary dismissals is quite similar. http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/what-a-weird-f…

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SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Nibby
12/09/2013 at 17:39

I know.

Nibby > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
12/09/2013 at 17:40

Kinja'd!!!

Victorious Secret > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:40

Of every single borderline terrible thing I've ever posted, that is what crossed the line?

Is dismissing someone who I just had no patience to reply to a state sanctioned crime? Yes, I am one of the most childish asshats here when I'm feeling up for it, but a basic feature that you so highly touted in Kinja is being used and now its a problem?

Am I not allowed to perfectly and bluntly say what I thought? Yes, hindsight is 20/20 and I sure as hell should've worded it in a way that is much more reasonable and even helpful, in a way you all know I'm damn well capable of doing.

And why the public shaming? You simply needed to unfollow me. You could've made a reply to the comment stating so. Whats the point of this? I don't know if I should feel ridiculed or amazed that I warrant an entire post on this.

Do we know go into it for every single person who flips the lid and gets unfollowed? Or is it because this is Hoonigan and someone brought it to your attention?

God knows I've gone semi-stupid over plenty of things and said some pretty damning things, but come on? Of all things, this?

You want admission of guilt? Yes, I was a douchebag. I'm much better than what my recent posting has shown. I will never back down from saying what I really feel on a matter and if that was just too far then yes, I did so without realizing not everyone will follow my school of bluntness and political incorrectness.

Redd, the RX-7 that could > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:41

Speaking of the grey, am I in it?

PS9 > Anon
12/09/2013 at 17:42

Kinja'd!!!

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > For Sweden
12/09/2013 at 17:42

less.... Jesus was an actual writer on Gizmodo......actually, he still is

Victorious Secret > Mikeado
12/09/2013 at 17:42

Usually decent?

Thats probably the nicest thing I've heard on the internet...ever.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > Klaus Schmoll
12/09/2013 at 17:42

Wow, I done even remember what he said when he was AJ. I do remember the day he changed his user name though, thought it was pretty amusing when I first saw it.

Ex. President Mack41 > Gamecat235
12/09/2013 at 17:44

Disagree

vs can get extremely rude and abusive in his posts, as he does here to some random photog. Though his opinion is of course valid his lack of tact, maturity, and ability to take civil explanation from the one he tears apart does not a featured comment make. People decry the lowering bar that new commenters bring. You reap what you sow (or whatever) and "edgy" , loud comments by those who have tenure basically giving them a pass are the examples set to new people.

Gamecat235 > Ex. President Mack41
12/09/2013 at 17:46

Matt already disagreed with me. You can pile more on though. =)

See my already existent edit, and the fact that I left my original post alone to prove that perhaps my .02 cents are worth less than even I think they are.

Victorious Secret > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
12/09/2013 at 17:47

I'm public enemy #1 now? Really?

Jesus fucking Christ why not make a "Lets bash VS" thread that I might not even see, just so we can get all this out of the way.

zn6 > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 17:47

The front page isn't a soapbox for you to stand on, it's where discussions are held. You can't just come into an article, act like a dick, and dismiss other's comments.

You brought this upon yourself.

Matt Hardigree > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 17:48

I don't care what you said, and, like I said: You have the right to do that. I just don't want anyone to think you got pinged for what you said (as you point out, you say plenty), so much as your decision to exclude others from your conversation.

That is a feature of Kinja and entirely your right, but if that's the way you're going to act you're going to get unfollowed.

Matt Hardigree > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 17:48

See how I managed to reply without dismissing you?

shpuker > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:48

I don't really mind the public shaming personally. It was a dick of a post.

E30Joe drives a Subaru > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 17:48

Hey, you were kind of a dick and it didn't go well. Get over it.

Ex. President Mack41 > Gamecat235
12/09/2013 at 17:48

I'm on mobile. When I hit reply he had

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 17:49

I think you're missing the point; no one really gives a shit that you said something incendiary. It's dismissing the reply to your comment by the person you called out that has people worked up, especially given that the guy took the time to craft a longer than three word reply. Their question is, if you didn't have any patience to reply, why not just leave it be? Was dismissing the comment really necessary, especially with a guy mentioned in an FP article coming in to defend himself?

The essence of being a 'followed' commentor is that you promote reasonably intelligent conversation on the FP. Dismissing a reasonably meaningful reply from someone you called out who was featured on an FP article doesn't fall under that guise. It's incredibly simple, and it has almost nothing to do with your original comment, other than it being a catalyst for the entire situation.

area man > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 17:50

BASH BASH BASH.

K done.

Gamecat235 > Ex. President Mack41
12/09/2013 at 17:50

No worries Mack, I know you from way back, and I respect your opinion, just wanted to let you know that "the man himself" had already let me know that I was offbase.

Boxer_4 > dinobot666
12/09/2013 at 17:51

I always go the impression that they would make a post about a banned commenter as a way to explain their reasoning of why they were banned. It also served as reinforcement to the community of how not to act (which reminds me of grade school). You notice that TTAC did not have too many posts about banned commenters (I seem to remember 2 or 3). However, they don't have quite the large numbers that we have around here.

gometz > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:51

What does it mean to be unfollowed by Jalopnik? Is that why I'm in the grays always?

ttyymmnn > Gamecat235
12/09/2013 at 17:53

In defending himself, Harmer got a little ugly too, though not abusive. I've got a rather long opinion about this, but I'm debating whether or not to post it. Ultimately, I think think all should have been handled behind the scenes. I worry about publicly calling out one commenter, out of the many nasty comments I read on the FP on a daily basis. Still, it's not as bad as Gawker.

dinobot666 > Boxer_4
12/09/2013 at 17:55

After the departure of Herr Schmitt, they (TTAC) invited all the banned users back and no longer make posts about why people were banned. Things have been more civilized over there as a result of it.

ttyymmnn > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
12/09/2013 at 17:55

But don't comments and replies get dismissed every day?

Gamecat235 > ttyymmnn
12/09/2013 at 17:55

Agreed re: the reply.

And to be honest, if you do voice it, I'd prefer (in my role as oppo moderator) that it is voiced here, in this post, rather than on it's own.

But I'm not going to presume to speak for Matt again. =)

Victorious Secret > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:55

I still don't understand why this had to be 'public', as if anyone else cares about my existence or contributions to either Oppo or Jalopnik proper over the years so why make a public execution of it?

And you want background on his posts and why I dismissed them? I simply wasn't in the mood. His tone of posts was near mockery, towards me and others in that post. I didn't want condescending explanations of how he was a Pro and knew better. If I wanted that I can stick to any of the dozens of camera forums and get my ears chewed out on elitism.

That is why I dismissed and why I didn't care. I moved on from that post. I was done with it. Tony Harmer kept replying, I kept dismissing without reading. There really isn't anything more to it.

Wave Motion Gun > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:56

"We don't have a banhammer anymore, so you can post whenever and however you like. I am dissapoint, though."

You don't? I know I'm in Perma-Dismiss over on Gawker for calling Max Read a silly name a while back.

Hooker > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:56

Well said, sir.

Matt Hardigree > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
12/09/2013 at 17:57

This.

190e30-Now with COSWORTH > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:58

I'm not so sure about the ruling on this one...no, he didn't word it in the nicest and most courteous way possible, not by a long shot. But if you're going to call him out on his lack of response here, I think that's a bit silly. He voiced his opinion, (a bit too strongly, but hey, it happens when you're sitting behind a computer sometimes. We've all done it once) and pretty much got told. Instead of responding in some sort of argument like you would typically find on the internet and potentially going back and forth all day, he respectfully hung his head and took the loss on this one. He could have apologized for his harsh words, it would have been more welcoming and more kind, but at the same time, he voiced his opinion and he is entitled to it.

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm just saying there's no reason to call him out in front of all of his loyal Opponauts for electing not to fight.

Barbarian772 > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:58

Has anybody a link to the article this comes from?

Matt Hardigree > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 17:58

I assumed someone would notice, this way it's clear right from the beginning. If it has the secondary impact of explaining what is and isn't acceptable from a followed commenter that's just a bonus.

SLR999 > BrtStlnd
12/09/2013 at 17:59

Maybe I'm on reddit too much, but it seems dismissal should be a last resort, only used when conversation degenerates to ad hominem s.

Ex. President Mack41 > Gamecat235
12/09/2013 at 17:59

On PC.

I saw he did, but I have an overall point to make. First off, I don't see it totally necessary to single out one commenter to make this statement but I respect Matts decision to do so and deal with the shit storm it can bring.

My main point is that oppositelock too often becomes a holier than thou club house, and its members (those that post almost exclusively there) are able to get away with way more than an average poster would because they have a virtual forum army at their back. The comraderie is nice, but it is too often and too easily abused. From "look at this troll" to making outrageous comments that would get called out if posted by a burner.

And I'm no better, I absolutely brought some of that and committed the same things that irk me now. I eventually noticed it happening more and more, and just got fed up. I know you are an oppositelock admin and an ambassador for the forum and Jalopnik as a whole, and you do a great job. But just because a commenter is on oppositelock doesn't mean they will get special treatment, automatic featured comments, or any of that. What I'm taking away from this is that oppositelock commenters, and jalopnik followed commenters, will be held to a higher standard, and that's a reassuring idea.

Hooker > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 17:59

Right call.

The photographer took the time to explain his methods and give a great response to an otherwise cowardly and hard criticism. The whole point of being a followed commenter is to promote the good conversations (and the commenters that create them) and dismiss the poor. This photographer was creating a positive from a very negative comment and I had hoped for healthy banter.

Thank you Matt for keeping us honorable and for fostering good conversation.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > ttyymmnn
12/09/2013 at 18:01

Absolutely they do. No one gives a shit when you dismiss "Mustangs r 4 GAIBOIIIS"; it's a different story when you call someone out very directly when they've been featured in an FP article, and then they take the time to craft a rather lengthy response and you dismiss them because, and I quote, "...I just had no patience to reply...".

The entire system is based upon discretion, both from the people awarding following privileges, and the people wielding them. Everyone on here has gotten a shitload of leeway when it comes to the use of being a followed user on the front page, but it seems rather apparent to me that this instance violates the spirit of the entire process.

He's still caught up in trying to defend what he said, and no one really cares about what he said; people are dicks on here all of the time.

Boxer_4 > dinobot666
12/09/2013 at 18:03

That's interesting. I has seemed more civilized over there the few times I've been over there recently.

Gamecat235 > Ex. President Mack41
12/09/2013 at 18:03

I have specifically taken down posts, and posted against the "look at this troll" type post here. Even though if you look back far enough I was guilty of this (back in the pre-kinja days, years ago now).

We are all hypocrites if we look back far enough, but that doesn't mean that we have to condone the behavior now. I completely agree with you and I appreciate you taking the the time to clarify your thoughts and better explain what I could not.

Very well said.

Victorious Secret > 190e30-Now with COSWORTH
12/09/2013 at 18:03

Loyal?

I don't think so.

Not a stretch to assume 99% of Oppo would prefer that my hands be chopped off so I couldn't type another word.

Osiris - I can haz Euro spec? > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:04

Yea, he probably could have worded it better than he did. And everything else that I've read aside, why did you feel the need to publicly shame him? That's kind of fucked up in my opinion. If you needed him to be able to see that he was unfollowed, why not just send him a message? Why not keep it between you two? It seems more like you want affirmation from Oppo on the fact that he was unfollowed. That's pretty damn childish in my opinion. I see that the part he is mostly being unfollowed for is the fact that he used a Kinja function and instead of talking with the photographer, just dismissed him. It just seems like if you were going to unfollow him, instead of making it public, you could have sent him a private message letting him know. Makes me lose a little respect for you Hardibro. Sorry.

m2m, apex detective > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:05

Good thing no harmer was done, heh.

Kinja'd!!!

Victorious Secret > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
12/09/2013 at 18:05

I'm not defending anything. I genuinely moved on. Should I have left Tony's replies there? Probably. I wasn't going to reply to them, I wasn't going to engage them. So my mistake is being hot-headed and dismissing them outright instead of leaving them to keep whatever discussion was going to occur after the fact.

If thats what it takes to be 'banned', so be it. I can fall on that sword.

Matt Hardigree > gometz
12/09/2013 at 18:06

Yes

SLR999 > Ex. President Mack41
12/09/2013 at 18:06

I've had a few of my posts dismissed for apparently no reason by that commenter in particular (although I still star their posts from time to time).

Not the best sportsmanship in my book.

Victorious Secret > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:07

My mistake was being hot headed and outright dismissing Tony's replies instead of just leaving them for whatever discussion was going to occur after the fact. I wasn't going to reply, I wasn't going to read them much less. That was my mistake. Barring everything else.

If thats the sword I have to fall on, so be it. I'll fall on it. You might as well call it a ban because the privilege and capacity I had of posting on FP is gone entirely, and I understand if you don't feel like handing it back at all.

CAR_IS_MI > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:07

A public stoning???

Matt Hardigree > Osiris - I can haz Euro spec?
12/09/2013 at 18:08

I prefer to be transparent whenever possible. I'd guess our follow/unfollow ratio is better than most other sites, and that's because we foster an environment where people can have a conversation even if they don't agree.

Since it was I who unfollowed I thought I should offer an explanation. I don't need an affirmation from Oppo, but it doesn't hurt that now people know how it might happen.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 18:09

I'll absolutely side with you in that the post on Oppo probably wasn't necessary, other than trying to make an example out of you, but that could have been handled with a little (lot?) more discretion, i.e. a non-specific post on the subject.

Barbarian772 > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:09

I can't remember reading his comment or te article, so I can't say if his "ban" is justified, I am just wondering why you post it here. I can't see a reson for this public shaming if he's the only one who gets it. I am sure people get unapproved every day, but this is the first post I've seen where you go out and publicly shame someone for not replying on the Internet... Isn't it better that he did just not react anymore than turn this into the big FP shitstorm that happens under every single article anyway??

Matt Hardigree > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 18:09

You can still post, you'll just be in the grey. Any followed commenter, writer, editor can star your post if it's a good one.

Osiris - I can haz Euro spec? > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:10

Ok then, here's another way you could have gone about it then: You could have written an Oppo post saying that someone had been unfollowed and why they were. It could have remained anonymous that VS had transgressed. I'm not a journalist and I don't pretend to know how to run a site like this. I just think it could have been more tactfully done as anonymous if you had to make a public thing about it.

ttyymmnn > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
12/09/2013 at 18:11

Yes, you are right. It's more about the dismissal than what was said, and I understand that and agree with it. What worries me is the public shaming. I can't help but think that Matt is protecting a friend or professional connection. It's like when your child embarrasses you in front of an important client, so you spank the child in front of the client to save face. Corporal punishment belongs in the home.

Victorious Secret > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
12/09/2013 at 18:11

I'm the easy target because I'm not well liked at all here or on FP, so to teach a lesson its far easier to throw me over the cliff.

Matt Hardigree > Osiris - I can haz Euro spec?
12/09/2013 at 18:14

I could have, and had it not been VS I think it might have worked, but everyone would have figured it out very quickly.

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:15

I'unno, as much as VS deserved it, it's also a new low for a public shaming.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 18:16

Don't be so melodramatic, man.

Pop a Molly, I'm sweating.

DanimalHouse > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:16

Kinja'd!!!

Woop!!

Brian, The Life of > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 18:20

Then I guess I'm a 1%er.

I'm not happy about this.

Osiris - I can haz Euro spec? > Matt Hardigree
12/09/2013 at 18:20

I know it sounds like I'm attacking you, but I'm not. Just trying to gain a little knowledge.

Regardless of who it was, we would have figured it out. Whether it being by someone who knew someone that heard about it or whether the person came out and told us. The only difference I see is that you would have saved face by anonymizing it instead of calling out VS by name and letting anyone, whether they frequent Oppo and post/comment or someone just happens across an Oppo post and wants to learn a little more about us.

Victorious Secret > Klaus Schmoll
12/09/2013 at 18:20

I guess its easy to talk trash when everyone is doing it, eh?

Victorious Secret > Brian, The Life of
12/09/2013 at 18:22

Yes well, a little late for that.

I figured my exit from Jalopnik would be over something actually entertaining and legendary. Not this.

NoahthePorscheGuy > For Sweden
12/09/2013 at 18:27

Wait what?

Victorious Secret > ttyymmnn
12/09/2013 at 18:28

Since the introduction of Kinja I have flexed that dismissal muscle more time than I care to keep track of. Whether over silly replies, serious replies, accusations and everything else inbetween.

Only after doing it to a Hoonigan photographer does it become a problem.

But this is good. It lets all the people who 'hate' me on Oppo come and speak their troubles and issues. Because, you know, they couldn't say it at any point before.

Brian, The Life of > Victorious Secret
12/09/2013 at 18:29

Doesn't have to be an exit, man. I'd understand if it is but it doesn't have to be.

This too shall pass (if you let it).

For Sweden > NoahthePorscheGuy
12/09/2013 at 18:32

It was way back in the before time (2012), but Jesus Diaz was temporarily banned from commenting on Gizmodo. Link .

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Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > zn6
12/09/2013 at 18:33

Though at the same time, the childish public shaming is uncalled for - two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how you look at it.